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Chords to Conquering lion?


ey! im learing guittar and i think i got the first chord for conquering lion
isnt it 8-10-10-9-8-8
BUT AFTER THAT I DONT KNOW HOW TO GO ON
i counted from the first fret as 1, i dont know if u count it from 0 or what.


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Re: Chords to Conquering lion?


She does some strange movement back and forth. It's really similar to Adam Lives In Theory and So Much Things to Say. The Conquering Lion revereses the chords to So Much Things to Say.

I'm thinking it's:
(The conquering lion)
8-10-10-9-8-8 then

(shall break every chain)
5-5-7-7-6-5

(the conquering lion)
7-7-9-9-8-7

(shall break every chainnnnn)
5-5-7-7-6-5

(give us the victory)
8-10-10-9-8-8

again and again
10-12-12-10-10-10 (or 8-8-10-10-10-10)

and again and again
7-7-9-9-8-7

nnnnnn
5-5-7-7-6-5-

give us the victory
8-10-10-9-8-8
10-12-12-10-10-10 (or 8-8-10-10-10-10)
hit the above chord once more then slide down to
7-7-9-9-8-7
8-10-10-9-8-8

repeat to end


Now, I think those are the chords, off the back of my hand without my guitar or the DVD in front of me. What's really weird is that this song sounds much the same as So Much Things to Say and Adam Lives In Theory, but because of the way an inverted minor can sound just the same as a regular minor, she's able to switch the chords up for instance

8-8-10-10-10-10, 10-12-12-10-10-10, and 5-5-7-7-6-5 all can sound exactly the same when you play them in this song, and can have exactly the same fitting in the chord pattern, the difference is the tone, the 8-8-10-10-10-10 will sound a little bit more beautiful, the 10-12-12-10-10-10 will sound a bit more traditional, and the 5-5-7-7-6-5 will be more of an inversion.

She does something similar in Adam Lives In Theory when she goes 5-7-7-6-5-5, then 5-5-7-7-7-7, then 4-4-6-6-5-4 then 2-2-4-4-3-2. She could easily, instead of hitting the 5-5-7-7-7-7 just play 7-9-9-7-7-7, but she choose not to, instead going for the more unusual beautiful tone of the 5-5-7-7-7-7. So, because she likes to mess around with inversion and odd chords once in a while, it's really difficult for me to say off hand exactly which one she's doing, because I remember this one being a variation on the chords to So Much Things to Say, especially considering these two are in the same key and are back to back on the DVD. In either case, I'll consult it later on when I get home, and then make any changes necessary. Be aware, these are just prelimary chords based solely on memory and not certainty. Hope this helps for the time being, until I can get a definitive posting.

-Terrence

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Re: Chords to Conquering lion?


wow that was so usefull!!
thank u!
k+ for u!!

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Re: Chords to Conquering lion?


8-8-10-10-10-10 !!!!!!!!!¡
man I NEVER NOTICED THAT!
WHEN SHE MAKES THAT SCALE DOWN IN ALMOST EVERYSONG
she put her fingers so strangely i couldnt even figure out how she made it


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Yeah, she used that configuration alot, in Adam Lives In Theory, So Much Things to Say, The Conquering Lion, I Gotta Find Peace of Mind. Alot of them. It's easier than jumping to that 10-12-12-10-10-10, especially when in those higher ranges which become difficult to play on the guitar, so she just leaves it at 8-8-10-10-10-10. You're right it can be difficult to pick them up. Lauryn is so traditional in the way she forms chords, and I have discovered that the traditional way can be very difficult to pick up on film.

I'll check it tonight, and watch her hands, and make sure these chords are absolutely right and then I'll post the definitive chords for you. Glad to be able to help.

-Terrence
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how would you play 8-8-10-10-10-10?

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Traditionally, you play 8-8-10-10-10-10 by leaving you index finger along the 8th fret. You place your index finger (second finger) on the 8th fret just asif you're about to play a regular 8-10-10-9-8-8 major chord. But instead, take your fourth finger and cover just last four strings on the 10th fret. So index finger covers the whole of the 8th fret, and the fourth finger covers the bottom four strings on the 10th fret, thereby creating 8-8-10-10-10-10. For a visual example, consult Adam Lives In Theory on the MTV Unplugged 2.0 DVD. On Adam Lives in Theory, you'll see her do the chord, but she's just playing 5-5-7-7-7-7. If you observe that finger position, then just take that and apply tothe 8th and 10th fret.

Here's another visual helper-outer :-)

The 00 represents your fingers
10th fret| 9th fret| 8th fret|
----------|---------|--00-------E
----------|---------|--00-------A
---00----|---------|--00-------D
---00----|---------|--00-------G
---00----|---------|--00-------B
---00----|---------|--00-------E
  4th______________2nd
 finger____________finger

Hope that helps. A better visual representation will be to actually watch Lauryn do it during Adam Lives in Theory.
On the Conquering Lion, you actually see her play 8-8-10-10-10-10, but it's just a quick glimpse. The camera men are so busy showing the love between Lauryn and Rohan during their duet on drums and guitar/voice that they stop showing her fingers. But during the second verse (where she repeats the words the 2nd time) you'll find a shot where the camera is under her, while she's playing the 8-8-10-10-10-10 chord.

Hope this is helpful. By the way, I checked last night, and the chord is 8-8-10-10-10-10

So the chords to it are:
(The conquering lion)
8-10-10-9-8-8 then

(shall break every chain)
8-8-10-10-10-10

(the conquering lion)
7-7-9-9-8-7

(shall break every chainnnnn)
5-5-7-7-6-5

(give us the victory)
8-10-10-9-8-8

again and again
8-8-10-10-10-10

and again and again
7-7-9-9-8-7

nnnnnn
5-5-7-7-6-5-

give us the victory
8-10-10-9-8-8
8-8-10-10-10-10)
hit the above chord once more then slide down to
7-7-9-9-8-7
8-10-10-9-8-8

repeat to end.

Once in a while ifyou want a deeper tone youcan substitute 5-5-7-7-6-5 for 8-8-10-10-10-10, but as she does not do it often, I don't advocate it.

-Terrence

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